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Chernobyl
(Message 2227)
Posted 3757 days ago by Nuadormrac I would be somewhat surprised if there were even people living close enough to there, for volunteers to be running their home computers, hence BOINC near the Chernobyl disaster. Given the severity of the disaster, the aftermath, and also the half life of uranium as well as plutonium; isn't the area still largely closed off to the public? Someone living in, or near the former Soviet area, could probably fill you in more on the situation. But I'd rather expect a bit of a quarantine, around the area. If no volunteers run computers there, then there would be no detectors from this project, on site... I'd imagine that others are monitoring the situation, and have already taken periodic readings there, to have a sense of exactly what the radiation levels are, both from the natural decay rate, and also any cleanup efforts attempted, as well as any dilution of radioactivity from rainfall and what not, that could move sediment/material "down stream" or whatever? 30 years, give or take, is a drop in the bucket against the half life of materials like U-238 though... The site of the Chernobyl reactor could remain dangerous health wise for any prolonged exposure, beyond our own lifetimes, would be the sense I have... |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2223)
Posted 3757 days ago by Nuadormrac Just an fyi, if you go to create a paypal account, you can link a credit card to it. It will be unverified, without a linked checking account, but it can get the job done here. Just make sure you have an email listed to it, so if someone goes and tries to sign you up for an Ebay seller's subscription or whatever, you can catch this. I've had to do this, and also cancel the subscription while notifying them I'm not a seller. Just to keep it all honest and all. But you can pay through paypal using a credit card. They might/might not be willing to work something out, which in part would also depend on the bank they have who holds their account. But as there's a limit of 100 detectors, and they have been selling, this might get you resolution sooner, just in case the demand for them picks up as more people become aware they're available now, and they can pre-order ;) |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2218)
Posted 3757 days ago by Nuadormrac Just an fyi, but when you go to send money, there's 2 options, pay for merchandise, and send money to family or friends. In truth, we're purchasing merchandise, but if you select the second option, it will pass whatever fees onto you. Ironically, because it came from checking, on the first page, it said there would be no fee passed, but when I went to the page to confirm the transaction or change it, in spite of that it listed a 1.18 euro fee. So I back browsed, selected the other option, and it charged me a 0.20 euro fee instead, and indicated that 20.00 euro would be passed on. Just a hint on how you can get around this business with fees and all, and NOT pass it onto what is essentially a non-profit project ;) |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2206)
Posted 3758 days ago by Nuadormrac He could answer most directly; but based on threads involving previous detectors sold here, I don't believe welding is necessary. It looks like things were assembled to a point, where it could be put together with much more ease, then welding would imply. Though it could be in the realm of the possible, I don't see a reason that this batch of detectors would require welding, when previous batches were designed to eliminate this need. |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2200)
Posted 3758 days ago by Nuadormrac I'd like to order 1, nickname, the one I'm posting with here. Edit: Paypal sent, I made sure the fee wasn't passed onto you, because I didn't think it would be right they'd pass a monetary exchange or withdrawl fee to you, to subtract from the 20 euros. |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2171)
Posted 3760 days ago by Nuadormrac Well, keep in mind we don't all live in the EU. In my own case, my accounts are in US banks, which is why I brought it up, and well buying online often do it through charge card, but of course one doesn't want to put credit card numbers or the like on public forums (for obvious reasons). Of course, banks can do a currency conversion where needed (from USD to Euro for instance), but this leaves a check (the amount of course would have to be converted), check card, credit card, etc... A check, one would have to calculate the conversion rate, as one writes it in the denomination, in my own case in US dollars. A card, the bank calculates it for one, then charges one's account appropriately so the converted payment, is the correct amount in the seller's own local currency. Yeah, I know, international payments add a wrinkle as we don't all use the same currency, etc. Thanks... I think it's sorted now, but had to straighten paypal out. Had an old account, I hadn't used in years. In fact it had an address on it, I hadn't lived at since 2010... Needless to say, I got an email, out of the blue recently, of some change initiated to the account, as there were 2 "requests" about services for an Ebay seller made 1 minute a part each. Thing is, I'm not an Ebay seller, and hadn't accessed the account in years, so was quite random. Had to put in a trouble ticket requesting what was going on, while I was actually at work at the time these requests came through, and inform them that I wasn't even at a computer the time the requests were made, hadn't accessed the account, and so in no way requested those changes to the account. I think it was sorted now. Heck, it didn't even have current bank details, as I closed out the account that was verified with them in 2011, and changed banks. I was using Bank of America at the time, but after they were looking at charging debit card usage fees, I switched to a community bank here, locally. Wasn't looking to use it again, until I straightened out what they were emailing me on, sorted out these requests for account changes I hadn't initiated, and had the paypal account back to right... Well if anything, the unrequested subscription change for business services or whatever, got me to update the whole account, as well at trouble ticket the emails they initially sent me about unrequested (by me) changes. |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2167)
Posted 3762 days ago by Nuadormrac Well, keep in mind we don't all live in the EU. In my own case, my accounts are in US banks, which is why I brought it up, and well buying online often do it through charge card, but of course one doesn't want to put credit card numbers or the like on public forums (for obvious reasons). Of course, banks can do a currency conversion where needed (from USD to Euro for instance), but this leaves a check (the amount of course would have to be converted), check card, credit card, etc... A check, one would have to calculate the conversion rate, as one writes it in the denomination, in my own case in US dollars. A card, the bank calculates it for one, then charges one's account appropriately so the converted payment, is the correct amount in the seller's own local currency. Yeah, I know, international payments add a wrinkle as we don't all use the same currency, etc. Definitely don't have any accounts in the EU. Live in New Jersey, specifically... |
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How to act when sensor shows unpredicted values?
(Message 2161)
Posted 3764 days ago by Nuadormrac Yeah, and what made things worse there, was that the Soviets had pretty much run Chernobyl without any shielding... Was essentially a nuclear reactor, in an open room type scenario. Definitely something we know, not to do, for obvious reasons... Of course state side we have also had accidents, Three Mile Island for instance, where one of the reactors went critical (there were 2), and the other is still functional to this day. Nuclear reactor technology has improved over the decades, but with the uncertainty being what it is for many, the politics has tended to be towards stopping production on new reactors, though the older ones, still grandfathered in, remain in operation. And without a replacement of some form, sometimes beyond their original projected life span. The irony of course is, that the 40 year old reactor really is less safe, then one built today, would be. Of course we're dealing with radiation, so people shouldn't take that to mean, no risk at all, but sometimes in the too and fro, many don't always understand that risk, and react without understanding. Of course a certain amount of radiation, is in the environment, even we're radioactive to a small degree, as a small percentage of the carbon in our body would be C-14, though most would be C-12. This is of course how archaeologists are able to do radio carbon dating on artifacts, as well as skeletal remains, to try to get a relative dating for various dig sites... That of course also has it's matters to be adjusted to, as both the burning of fossil fuels (coal was in the Earth from before the time of the dinosaurs, and even dating back to the time of the Permian extinction), as well as radioactive explosions such as occurred at Hiroshima (for obvious reasons) can effect the baseline, they're testing things against, to get their dating measure, relative to the half life of C-14, and how much is left in the artifact now, vs in the environment at large, today... Once the coal for instance, which was in the Earth for 100s of millions of years is burned, the C-14 from it would have had a lot of half lives, but now burned and turned into CO2, that carbon is reintroduced into the ecosystem, where it would then form plants, and enter the food chain as such ;) What happened during the Fukashima disaster though, shows exactly how the information getting out can go though. Tepco, (which to a certain degree was in damage control mode, as they responded with their own PR) was saying one thing. The Japanese government was largely getting the information from Tepco, and nuclear authorities in the US were saying something quite different, when assessing the risk. Then the IAEA had to come in, to assess the situation, but the people on the ground, in Japan were themselves confused wrt who to believe, and what they should do NOW... All one can do though, is respond to the information they will have at hand though, and respond in the best way they are able. Of course reason I mention considering the risk or one's area, is because if someone gets a fluke reading, they could end up with a reading of a Chernobyl like disaster in Antarctica (if one were to go down there, for who knows what reason), and that just wouldn't fit. We don't have nuclear reactors at the south pole obviously, and I couldn't see any reason one would use a nuke on the polar bears :o Maybe above, if an asteroid were hurtling towards Earth, and they were trying to change it's trajectory, but if they were going to attempt that, they also wouldn't necessarily be trying it so close to the Earth's surface. Our telescopes can tell us when one of these things is coming, long before it comes that close. We're tracking one, for more then a decade away, but it's expected to miss us, after the math was run, though it will come closer to Earth then the moon, like one recently had. |
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News :
New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2151)
Posted 3767 days ago by Nuadormrac And hopefully have a secure means of payment, so we can get the money to you, without putting any banking details "out there"... Will need to be drawn against a US bank, for either checking or credit card, here... Not sure what methods of payment are open for the order here... |
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New sensor (KIT) batch - SOLD OUT!
(Message 2145)
Posted 3768 days ago by Nuadormrac hehe, and here when I saw there was an update to this forum on the forum main page; thought there might have been an update. Then I clicked :o Oh well, guess we all have to wait a bit longer... |