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Message 117 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011 | 16:52:45 UTC
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We have collected required quantity of orders. Please do not place orders until futher notice.

We can now start pre-ordering action for self-assembled detector's kit's.
More info on main website

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Message 118 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011 | 18:10:32 UTC - in response to Message 117.
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I am very interested in a kit but I have some questions first before I can place an order.

1) Does it include the transformer core and the winding wire?

2) Does it include a PCB (printed circuit board) or just perf board?

3) Is the microprocessor in a PDIP package (easy to solder) or one of the smaller packages (difficult to solder)?

4) Will the microprocessor be pre-flashed or will we need a special cable to flash it ourselves?

5) What are shipping charges to:

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Message 119 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011 | 18:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 118.
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1. Yes
2. Printed circuit board
3. In DIP, in socket (you don't need sold it)
4. Yes, we will flash it (also we make ftp access for software - we licence it as GPL)
5. Bad news. Delivery to North America (all countries) cost is 15 Euro.

Edited by me to include more accurate delivery price
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Message 120 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011 | 18:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 119.
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1. We will supply the transformer, winding it is problematic and transformer's design is important.

4. As krzyszp said, the CPU will be pre-flashed, but it doesn't mean it won't need upgrade in future. A simple programmer can be build under $2 if you have access to PC with LPT port.

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Message 122 - Posted: 26 Jul 2011 | 22:43:57 UTC
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I tried to order a detector but the PayPal contributions page is in British pounds, not euros. Am I doing something wrong or is the contributions page setup wrong?

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Message 123 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 5:16:34 UTC - in response to Message 122.

Changed, now default value is in Euros.
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Message 124 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 9:55:11 UTC

What is the shipping cost to Hong Kong?

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Message 125 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 11:14:38 UTC - in response to Message 124.

For Hong Kong shipping cost is 15.50 Euro
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Message 126 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 13:07:57 UTC

How much is shipping in the EU, i.e. Germany for me, but I think it's the same for all.

And is it cheaper to bundle them, if some of us meet somehow in real life (I don't think shipping a bundle to Germany and then sending them again by parcel inland will be any cheaper)?
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Message 127 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 14:35:29 UTC - in response to Message 126.
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Current shipping rates are available here: http://www.cennik.poczta.lublin.pl/eng/index.php (Select "Parcel with stated value" link and enter value of 100PLN).
For Germany carriage rate are 14 Euro.

I'm surprised but carriage charge is different for every country in EU...
I will prepare complete charges list for tomorrow as well...
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Message 128 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 15:24:11 UTC
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I always get the same price for Europe:

Economic parcel with a stated value
To: Europe (including Cyprus, whole Russia and Israel)
Weight: up to 1kg Value: 100 PLN
Price 56.00 PLN
Price for stated value 2.00 PLN
Total price 58.00 PLN


As "up to 5kg" delivers this:

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To: Europe (including Cyprus, whole Russia and Israel)
Weight: up to 5kg Value: 100 PLN
Price 84.00 PLN
Price for stated value 2.00 PLN
Total price 86.00 PLN


It's good to buy in batches ;)
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Message 129 - Posted: 27 Jul 2011 | 15:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 128.

For Bialorus (Bielarus) carriage fee is 28PLN, Czech Republic - 23PLN, Slovakia - 23PLN. Other countries in Europe, Russia and Israel - 58PLN

Currently:
58PLN = 14.50 Euro
28PLN = 7 Euro
23PLN = 5.76

North America 15 Euro
South and Middle America, Asia: 15.50 Euro
Australia, Oceania: 15.80 Euro

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Message 149 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 16:10:05 UTC

When donating via paypal I'm not getting any chance to put in my shipping address or anything else at all?

Can I donate then contact you with the info ?

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Message 150 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 16:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 149.

When donating via paypal I'm not getting any chance to put in my shipping address or anything else at all?

Can I donate then contact you with the info ?

I got a "message to recipient" link in my PayPal-form, that opened a long text field, and even the title was long enough to fit my address in ;)
But you can nevertheless contact Krtysztof per pm as well ;)
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Message 151 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 16:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 149.
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Bok,

Do you have Javascript enabled in your browser?

The order form worked properly for me, I got address field, country drop down box, etc. Using Firefox 3.6.17.

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Message 152 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 18:40:06 UTC - in response to Message 149.

When donating via paypal I'm not getting any chance to put in my shipping address or anything else at all?

Can I donate then contact you with the info ?

You are in UK?
Then you can call me (I'm living in UK).
For tel number just send me info on private message.
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Message 155 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 152.

I'm from the UK, but have lived and worked in the US for 13years now.. :)

I'm just made the donation, but still didn't get anywhere to input the info. I'll PM you the details...

I did 50Euro, a little more than necessary but that's all good :)

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Message 156 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 155.


I'm just made the donation, but still didn't get anywhere to input the info. I'll PM you the details...

I did 50Euro, a little more than necessary but that's all good :)

No problem, send me PM with transaction number or other unique number from Paypal and we send you kit for given address.
Also I'm appreciate to give us little be more then only costs. That will help us with our finances (for server and other things). Thank You :)

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Message 157 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 156.

At the moment, we have collected 34 paid orders and about 8-10 declared, not so many left...
It's take only five days to get this number :)
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Message 158 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:28:55 UTC

Done. I've also posted over at SETI.USA to spread the word..

Will do the same a Free-DC, I suggest others doing it on their boards too ?

Can you keep us up to date on the number of pre-orders you get at all ?

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Message 159 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:34:04 UTC - in response to Message 158.

Of course I can and will do (see my last post).
As soon as we collect 50 orders we will stop (switch off donate button) and realise first batch. After successfully sending them we will start again but we have to be sure that everything is ok with first batch...
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Message 160 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:35:56 UTC

Sweet. Thanks!

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Message 161 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 19:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 160.
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Next order arrived :)

Edit:
Another one, both from USA
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Message 162 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 20:12:03 UTC
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I'm in.

I just sent you via paypal. The form on the main site takes you to paypal. I put in 40 euros (25 for the kit and 15 for mailing). It did not give me a form to fill in address but there was a box for special instructions so i put my address there.

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40 euros = $58.93 US.

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Message 163 - Posted: 31 Jul 2011 | 20:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 162.

I'm in.

I just sent you via paypal. The form on the main site takes you to paypal. I put in 40 euros. It did not give me a form to fill in address but there was a box for special instructions so i put my address there.

Yes, I noticed that and this is best way to give us an address.
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Message 164 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 5:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 163.
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Currently 38 orders confirmed, 10 declared.
If declared orders come to "paid" stage we probably this evening (GMT time) close subscription for first batch.

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Another 2 orders confirmed.
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Message 166 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 14:19:11 UTC

You are still going to provide assembled detectors later, right? I've not ordered yet as my soldering skills are not that great, though I could probably manage it (only soldering is required, not programming the chip, correct?).
If you are not going to supply assembled detectors, I'll order a kit now...

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Message 167 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 14:27:17 UTC - in response to Message 166.
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In our case "kit" means that you have connect Geiger tube to board (without or with soldering - depend of you), controller we send programmed. No soldering skills required. For example, my prototype is connected to g. tube using to cables (device side) and using this on tube side*. Another detail is that our kit doesn't have ABS box now, we still looking for cheap and accurate one...

Sorry, I don't know English name of this tool :).
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Message 168 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 14:37:10 UTC - in response to Message 167.
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In our case "kit" means that you have connect Geiger tube to board (without or with soldering - depend of you), controller we send programmed. No soldering skills required. For example, my prototype is connected to g. tube using to cables (device side) and using this on tube side*. Another detail is that our kit doesn't have ABS box now, we still looking for cheap and accurate one...

Sorry, I don't know English name of this tool :).

We call those alligator clips, because it looks like an aligator's mouth with all the teeth. :)


So we get that board as on the home page, with the parts already on it. All we have to do is plug in usb cable and like you said clip some wirres to the tube and attach them where the red and black wires are. Correct ?

I would not worry too much about an ABS box (added Expense), my whole 5 system computer is built on a rack, without a case. Maybe in the future you could offer two versions, 1 in a nice box for more money or one as-is with no box.

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Message 169 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 14:46:08 UTC

OK, I've placed my order, I hope it's not too late!

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Message 170 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 14:55:16 UTC - in response to Message 168.


We call those alligator clips, because it looks like an aligator's mouth with all the teeth. :)


So we get that board as on the home page, with the parts already on it. All we have to do is plug in usb cable and like you said clip some wirres to the tube and attach them where the red and black wires are. Correct ?

I would not worry too much about an ABS box (added Expense), my whole 5 system computer is built on a rack, without a case. Maybe in the future you could offer two versions, 1 in a nice box for more money or one as-is with no box.


We called it "krokodylki" which is very similar ;)

Yes, you correct in your describtion and yes we would like to offer nice boxy version later but we can't do this now for legal reasons (all "boxed" stuff have to be passed through expensive tests in laboratories before it can go to market).

Also we still considering more expensive version - boxed and with GPS module fitted, which can generate little profit for use for selling basic version cheaper to countries where wages are low and government are not very friendly to their citizen's.

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Message 171 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 15:05:17 UTC - in response to Message 164.

40 orders confirmed.
10 declared.

We just wait for confirmation of last 10.
If in mean time somebody make his payment first then first batch will be little be bigger than 50pcs - we stop collecting orders when 50 be paid :)

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Message 172 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 15:21:42 UTC - in response to Message 171.

40 orders confirmed.
10 declared.

We just wait for confirmation of last 10.
If in mean time somebody make his payment first then first batch will be little be bigger than 50pcs - we stop collecting orders when 50 be paid :)

Next one confirmed.
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Message 173 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 15:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 172.

Next one confirmed.


That would be me :)

PM sent with, hopefully, enough info for you. Paypal didn't give me any opportunity to enter more details (I looked, really really hard, honestly!).

Looking forward to getting involved seriously with this project :)

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Message 174 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 15:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 173.

FWIW, I just discovered (too late for me) that clicking the Donate link on the BOINC project homepage doesn't let you enter any extra information, but the Donate link on the main project page gives you a chance to enter a message. Didn't see it before as it was off the bottom of the screen.

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Message 175 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 15:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 174.

FWIW, I just discovered (too late for me) that clicking the Donate link on the BOINC project homepage doesn't let you enter any extra information, but the Donate link on the main project page gives you a chance to enter a message. Didn't see it before as it was off the bottom of the screen.

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Uuups, I didn't found this :/
I'm afraid, that function for donation button is built in in server software and I can only manage button on main site.

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Message 176 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 17:25:21 UTC

It's been 23 here now, I hope you can manage the one more than I said yesterday.
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Message 177 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 17:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 176.
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It's been 23 here now, I hope you can manage the one more than I said yesterday.

Yes we can, we just order more elements ;)

And we stop collecting more orders from now with 52 of them :)
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Message 178 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 18:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 170.
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We call those alligator clips, because it looks like an aligator's mouth with all the teeth. :)
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We called it "krokodylki" which is very similar ;)

Poland is not so far away, we call them "Krokodilklemme". ;)

But yes. We all think the same.

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Message 179 - Posted: 1 Aug 2011 | 19:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 178.

Below are links to three more pictures including one with alligator clips aka "Krokodilklemme" sometimes also called "krokodylki".





On last picture you can find "+" sign on tube and on second on left side is programmer connection port and on left side connector for tube wires.
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Message 180 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 12:56:32 UTC

Good news on having too many orders.

I got to thinking about what you said about one with a GPS built in. I am wondering why ? Then I was thinking so you can "locate" the sensors, like maybe on a global map.

One problem you might have is exporting the "GPS" version. We have specific restrictions here in the US and I sell boat GPSes but cannot export any outside the US, even though they are made in like Tawian.

Maybe what you can do is just add Lat/Long data fields to the database and our user account information page and let users fill in thier own location. Would be much less costly for users to participate and maybe easier to manage.

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Message 181 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 14:10:43 UTC - in response to Message 180.

We are under process of creating map (based on google maps service) to getting locations of detectors (you can see progress on you host settings in your account).
Also you can take a look there: http://radioactiveathome.org/boinc/test123a.php - we test some results and locations reading from database (for computers with sensors).

Legal requirements are different in some countries but I hope we can soon find solution for these problems, if not... we don't use GPS :(

Anyway, we concentrate now on model version 2 (this one which soon will be send to you) - this is now most important.
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Message 182 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 14:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 180.

I don't like the idea of GPS either, for the reasons Krunchin-Keith mentions. However, expecting volunteers to fill in location information is far from foolproof. Most crunchers probably don't know their latitude and longitude and don't know where to get it. Many will be unaware of the need to manually enter the lat and long in their account information. You can plaster the request to enter the info all over the project website and send them emails requesting the info but some still won't catch on because it's just not a standard thing to do in BOINC. The best way to get their attention and motivate them to enter the lat and long would be to advertise the need all over the website, send them an email or 2 and give them 0 credit for results until they provide the lat and long. But then what if a volunteer moves to a new location? Maybe GPS is the best way. Customs officials will never know what's on the detectors and what they're used for. Just call them a radiation detector and don't mention the GPS capability. You'll fly right under the radar.

I wonder how Quake-Catcher keeps tabs on their crunchers' locations?

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Message 183 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 14:59:48 UTC
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If you don't own a gps already, try the intenet, it has dozens of locate me things
example:
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I don't really want to use my exact location anyway, but if i used say the center of town, that would pinpoint it, I think, close enough for project use and still protect my address.

The project could just use the "country" the user fills in on registration as a general location unless they fill in something more specific.

The project could do like some projects did, they used it based on ip and did some kind of lookup, I think there is a service that does it, but it would cost the project money. I hunt around for an example and more details on that, I don't remeber off the top of my head where I saw those. .

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Message 184 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 17:47:40 UTC - in response to Message 183.
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We discuss IP2Country technique, but we can't trust it (sometimes for my friends shows that they are in USA even if check their IP from Poland.
Using GPS give us opportunity to track positions and obviously we can anonymity information on web site same as we can do for google map provided mechanism (again, check your machines settings on web site project settings to see what I mean).

As I says before, location of town centre is good enough for project.
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Message 185 - Posted: 2 Aug 2011 | 18:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 183.

That is so cool!! I was on Google maps earlier looking for a locator and didn't find one there. Thanks for that link. Now I know the coordinates of my garden shed. It's latitude 49.663638143542784, longitude -112.79833674430847. In degrees/minutes/seconds it's lat 49/39/49.0962, long -112/47/54.0132.

They could lookup our IP addresses but that wouldn't locate us with any precision. For example, if you look up mine you'll see that my IP is in a block of addresses owned by Shaw Cable (my ISP). You can get the street address and phone number of Shaw's network administrator but that could be thousands of kilometers from me. They have offices all over Canada. I suspect Shaw's privacy policy prohibits them from handing out any info about me.

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Message 191 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 13:19:26 UTC

Here's the places for the detectors in my order:

3 of those places will be split, the northernmost one in 6 somewhere up there in the north, the other only in 2, as they live close together and ordered two for one address.
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Message 192 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 13:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 191.

Here's the places for the detectors in my order:

3 of those places will be split, the northernmost one in 6 somewhere up there in the north, the other only in 2, as they live close together and ordered two for one address.

That's kool.

Did you order a bunch for team-mates or friends in the same area, I guess to save on postage when the project ships them ?

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Message 193 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 13:50:56 UTC - in response to Message 192.

That's kool.

Did you order a bunch for team-mates or friends in the same area, I guess to save on postage when the project ships them ?

I organized this bunch on several German team fora, P3D, S.G, B@H, RKN and some others who read there as well joined in, for example those 6 in northern Germany are from some weather forum, two of it's members are as well active in the S.G- and RKN-Forum.
Perhaps we can save even more postage, if one of the polish guys can manage to cross the border for sending them, but I think that would only be the cherry on the cake.
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Message 194 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 13:58:30 UTC - in response to Message 193.

That's kool.

Did you order a bunch for team-mates or friends in the same area, I guess to save on postage when the project ships them ?

I organized this bunch on several German team fora, P3D, S.G, B@H, RKN and some others who read there as well joined in, for example those 6 in northern Germany are from some weather forum, two of it's members are as well active in the S.G- and RKN-Forum.
Perhaps we can save even more postage, if one of the polish guys can manage to cross the border for sending them, but I think that would only be the cherry on the cake.

Actually i though of doing this, have a bunch shipeed to me here in the USA, hopefully less cost for a bunch at once than one at a time from Poland, then i would redistribute them here in the USA as i could mail them to any location here for 5 USD, which i think per unit would be less than 15 euros which is about 23 USD even if i added back the one time shipping fee divided over number of units. This might make more US people be inclined to join up. I'll have to think on this some. Maybe after my detector arrives and I see it working.

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Message 195 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 14:46:07 UTC - in response to Message 194.


Actually i though of doing this, have a bunch shipeed to me here in the USA, hopefully less cost for a bunch at once than one at a time from Poland, then i would redistribute them here in the USA as i could mail them to any location here for 5 USD, which i think per unit would be less than 15 euros which is about 23 USD even if i added back the one time shipping fee divided over number of units. This might make more US people be inclined to join up. I'll have to think on this some. Maybe after my detector arrives and I see it working.

The prices were per kilo, and Krzysztof said he thinks 5 should fit in a parcel with 1kg weight.
And heavier parcels are not as much more expansive as they get heavy.
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Message 196 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 14:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 195.

This is best way for shipping over borders and is also easier to manage for us.
You can slowly looking for friends who would like to get detectors and when we finish first bath, we can manage even bigger second part.
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Message 197 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011 | 15:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 196.

This is best way for shipping over borders and is also easier to manage for us.
You can slowly looking for friends who would like to get detectors and when we finish first bath, we can manage even bigger second part.


That is great. I think I can do this.
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When you have some free time if you could give me an estimate of the shipping of sending some here to the US, like say 5, 10, 25 or 50 or some such numbers, I can better guess at what I can do. Euro prices are fine, i can convert. PM me if you wwant to.
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I probally could buy a batch and then resell them here at cost, no markup. And since part of my daily job is mailing packages, it would be little bother to me to remail these to US residents. once I had a batch and payment, they could have one in 2-3 days.

for USA residents:
If anyone is interested in the next batch, drop me a PM and I'll start a list and we can work out the details of payment.

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Message 198 - Posted: 8 Aug 2011 | 10:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 197.

I just check postage prices for parcel up to 5kg (I think, this is enough for 50 detectors, maybe little be less), with value up to 5k PLN (about 1250 euro)to USA. Polish Post web service show cost as about 40 euro (165PLN).
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Message 199 - Posted: 8 Aug 2011 | 11:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 198.

I just check postage prices for parcel up to 5kg (I think, this is enough for 50 detectors, maybe little be less), with value up to 5k PLN (about 1250 euro)to USA. Polish Post web service show cost as about 40 euro (165PLN).

OK, I can work from that.

Working slowly as advised, we have 1 pre-order.

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Message 205 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011 | 14:30:13 UTC

Can we sign up somewhere to get email when we can order detectors again?

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Message 206 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011 | 15:22:59 UTC - in response to Message 205.

Can we sign up somewhere to get email when we can order detectors again?

For those in the US send me a PM of your interest. I will be buying a batch after the first batch is done and sent out. Size of batch will be determined by number of pre-interests I receive. I'll PM everyone in my inbox that PM'd me and you can pay me back then and send your address, make sure you turn on email notices and you'll get one when I PM. When I get the batch I'll reship to those that paid me, only US addresses only. I don't know the exact price yet but it should be slightly cheaper than buying one at a time direct as it will save some on the batch by having them shipped all at once over one at a time. I can reship USPS Priority mail once I receive them and that will only be 2-3 days delivery. That will be easy for me as shipping is part of my daily job.

In case anyone wonders, you can trust me. Check stats, i've been around boinc since 2004, Kaptain of team USA on every project, manager/moderator of team USA website, Moderator at MalariaControl.net, GPUgrid and Correlizer and an alpha tester. I'm pretty committed to boinc and not just another anonymous name.

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Message 207 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011 | 18:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 206.

Can we sign up somewhere to get email when we can order detectors again?

For those in the US send me a PM of your interest.


I'd give him my email address, it's easier to send mails to a list of people than to use PM for that ;)

In case anyone wonders, you can trust me. Check stats, i've been around boinc since 2004, Kaptain of team USA on every project, manager/moderator of team USA website, Moderator at MalariaControl.net, GPUgrid and Correlizer and an alpha tester. I'm pretty committed to boinc and not just another anonymous name.

I'd say: Trust him! I have never seen him personally, but he's around here for quite some time and appears to be trustworthy!
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Message 208 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011 | 11:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 207.

Can we sign up somewhere to get email when we can order detectors again?

For those in the US send me a PM of your interest.


I'd give him my email address, it's easier to send mails to a list of people than to use PM for that ;)


For now I think i'd like ot use PM messages, as when i get around to actually filling of order I might be doing it here at the office, early in the morning, and I would have easier access to my PM box. Also that keeps things separate as my email ahs lots of stuff in it, something might get lost in the clutter. It might be harder to notify 50 people at once, if I have that many, I'll have to do a few at a time, but I think overall it will make things easier on me keeping it separate and accessible. I generally too check project sites more often than email.


In case anyone wonders, you can trust me. Check stats, i've been around boinc since 2004, Kaptain of team USA on every project, manager/moderator of team USA website, Moderator at MalariaControl.net, GPUgrid and Correlizer and an alpha tester. I'm pretty committed to boinc and not just another anonymous name.

I'd say: Trust him! I have never seen him personally, but he's around here for quite some time and appears to be trustworthy!


Thanks, yeah there seems to a large body of water between us. One day though in the far off future I'll paddle my kayak across to the other side.

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Message 215 - Posted: 17 Aug 2011 | 1:04:53 UTC

Hello, starting a thread in BOINC.Italy forum

we'll be ready for next pre-order ;)

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Message 217 - Posted: 17 Aug 2011 | 6:09:53 UTC - in response to Message 215.

Hello, starting a thread in BOINC.Italy forum

we'll be ready for next pre-order ;)


Me too, thanks.

If the client do not need (like QCN) a custom firewall setting for example for a ntp custom client, I could use 2 sensor in 2 different sites, if make sense place 2 sensors with a distance of 4 km. Let me know. Thanks.

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Message 224 - Posted: 17 Aug 2011 | 12:01:23 UTC - in response to Message 217.


If the client do not need (like QCN) a custom firewall setting for example for a ntp custom client, I could use 2 sensor in 2 different sites, if make sense place 2 sensors with a distance of 4 km. Let me know. Thanks.

Our client use only BM build in mechanisms. You don't need to open any additional ports on firewall.
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Message 227 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011 | 7:26:28 UTC
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This morning next delivery arrive.
From one of ours suppliers I get delivery with most stuff for 60 detectors.
We waiting now only for boards (status page shows that is prepared for production) and trafo.
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Message 229 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011 | 12:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 227.
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Hello friends,
I would like to ask for big order about 30 pieces of detectors for team "Czech National Team".
Possibility of pick up directly in Poland.
Please contact back by email (może być polski).
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Message 230 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011 | 19:18:17 UTC - in response to Message 229.

Welcome friends from Czech National Team :)

When we finish sending first batch we start to organise second one. It will be about 200pcs.
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Message 231 - Posted: 26 Aug 2011 | 22:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 230.

Some pictures:
http://krzyszp.info/files/radioactive/hardware/
On few of them you can see parts for first batch of our detectors...
On next Tuesday I would like to send parts to Szopler, we still wait for boards (probably arrive Monaday or Tuesday), LCD's and Trafo's...


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Message 232 - Posted: 27 Aug 2011 | 1:02:15 UTC - in response to Message 231.

That's a lot of parts and a lot of soldering. Does Szopler have a wave soldering machine or will they all be done with an iron?

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Message 233 - Posted: 27 Aug 2011 | 1:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 232.

He doing all soldering manually... ;)
For next batch we still looking for manufacturer...
If anybody know any cheap (good) one, please contact with me by PW.
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Message 245 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011 | 4:31:35 UTC

Is there an estimated date for shipments yet? Maybe I missed it?
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Message 246 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011 | 9:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 245.

No, you not missed it :)
Currently we wait for LCD's and some small elements (expected next week), when we get it I will send everything to Szopler. Definitely we would like start shipping before end of month.

Apologise if we get week or two delay but we are depend of suppliers...
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Message 283 - Posted: 22 Sep 2011 | 9:22:21 UTC - in response to Message 246.

Good news :)

Last delivery arrive to Szopler, so he can start soldering now.

Expected shipping date for first batch - end of next week.
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Message 284 - Posted: 23 Sep 2011 | 9:10:28 UTC

Great news, thanks! I'll start looking for a box to put it in ;)

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Message 285 - Posted: 23 Sep 2011 | 17:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 284.

Great news, thanks! I'll start looking for a box to put it in ;)


I've got a nice sturdy lead box to put mine in.

Oh, no, wait ... ;)

Looking forward to getting started :)

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Message 289 - Posted: 2 Oct 2011 | 13:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 285.

We have found a bug in controller and fix it.
If tests not shows any more bugs we will start sending detectors tomorrow (half of batch) then rest of them during next week.
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Message 290 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 8:28:26 UTC

Thank you for the info and your work.

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Message 291 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 10:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 289.

We have found a bug in controller and fix it.
If tests not shows any more bugs we will start sending detectors tomorrow (half of batch) then rest of them during next week.


Thanks for that. I'm waiting for the first real WU, measuring something and not just running.
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Message 292 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011 | 11:58:28 UTC - in response to Message 289.

We have found a bug in controller and fix it.
If tests not shows any more bugs we will start sending detectors tomorrow (half of batch) then rest of them during next week.


How did this go? Did half of the detectors get shipped yesterday ?

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Message 1388 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012 | 7:50:10 UTC

Hello,

when is the next detector's pre-ordering ?

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