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Message 17 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011 | 10:18:18 UTC

error finding DataStore: The specified device was not found

I presume because the hardware needed is missing. I don't see anything at all about these, will there be instructions to get one at all ? Will they be available to the general public ?

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Message 18 - Posted: 16 Jun 2011 | 10:24:21 UTC - in response to Message 17.

Yes, it's because of missing hardware and yes, we plan to supply one.

When we finish all software tests we will provide detector based on prototype one (see web site).

Cost of detector will be around 100PLN (25-30GBP) and it is only cost for device - we do it as non-profit organisation.

Soon as we find all details we will publish software sources and updated hardware diagram.

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Message 35 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011 | 15:08:46 UTC

I find this project very interesting and will probably buy a detector if the science will be useful.
However, how about drivers for the sensors? Will they be generic and included in the kernel of major Linux distros?
Will you ship the sensors all over the world, or only to specific countries?
Also, how useful is one isolated sensor compared to several in the region? I believe this is the problem at QCN@home, where a single sensor is not really that useful.

Looking forward to learning more about your project!

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Message 36 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011 | 16:02:28 UTC - in response to Message 35.

The sensor is a HID class device, it works without drivers.

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Message 37 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011 | 16:26:21 UTC - in response to Message 35.

I find this project very interesting and will probably buy a detector if the science will be useful.
However, how about drivers for the sensors? Will they be generic and included in the kernel of major Linux distros?
Will you ship the sensors all over the world, or only to specific countries?
Also, how useful is one isolated sensor compared to several in the region? I believe this is the problem at QCN@home, where a single sensor is not really that useful.

Looking forward to learning more about your project!


As TJM explain, this is a HID device and all development are going on Linux powered machines.

Currently I have checked that works correct with Debian based distros, Windows XP (32 and 64) and Windows 7-64.

We plan to ship sensors to whole world. The only barrier I can imagine is a price for some countries (parcels costs?). We hope put costs of detector on lowest possible level (this is non-profit project).


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Message 38 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011 | 16:35:55 UTC

Thanks for your explanations. I'll be looking forward to the release of the sensors.

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Message 39 - Posted: 20 Jun 2011 | 18:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 18.

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Cost of detector will be around 100PLN (25-30GBP) and it is only cost for device - we do it as non-profit organisation.

Soon as we find all details we will publish software sources and updated hardware diagram.

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Hi Krzysztof,

Nice 25Euro?

Is that the price for the electronic device inc sensor Geiger Tube?

There ist cheaper than a QNC sensor... ;)

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Message 41 - Posted: 21 Jun 2011 | 4:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 39.

Yes, that price include Geiger tube.


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Message 51 - Posted: 30 Jun 2011 | 20:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 41.

Yes, that price include Geiger tube.


Hope it's affordable in US dollars.

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Message 52 - Posted: 1 Jul 2011 | 21:44:42 UTC

Well, based on current exchange rates that's about 36-48 USD. So all that remains is determining what it would take to ship the detector with a geiger tube to a US location.

Might work out better to have a US based distribution point for folks living here. Although, even that may not be enough to prevent damage due to shipping handling. :-)

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Message 62 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011 | 11:37:47 UTC

so i finally got one wu for my win7 host.

it is stuck at 0.00% for over 2.5 hours now. i know i don't have a monitoring device yet and you are still in software-test-stage, but should we run these wus at all or are they stuck (will they finish)

thanks for an answer

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Message 63 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011 | 11:51:03 UTC
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The WU will finish after 2,5 to 3 hours (it varies between app versions).
During this time the app looks for the sensor every 10 seconds.
There is no progress bar when the sensor is not connected.

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Message 64 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011 | 15:31:25 UTC

Is the sensor available 'off the shelf' and available to the general public, or is it something that needs to be made specifically for this project?

If it is easily available, I'm happy to find one in the UK and give it a try. Even if it's only available to the trade, i.e. business buyers, I can still get one. Part number?

Slightly hijacking the thread, a couple of questions:

1) Is there any point in running the project on more than one host in a given location. I'm thinking in terms of validating results. By location I mean within one house, office or whatever rather than town or city.

2) Where will be the best place to put the sensor? Inside a building? Outside? I guess it doesn't matter, but I did my physics degree a *long* time ago :blush: - Oh, just remembered, gamma - Won't matter.

Really looking forward to getting started with this - We have a final year Physics Masters student working for us part time and I'd like to get her and the Uni interested. Also my friend is a DSc and his acedemic contacts could possibly raise a lot of interest in this project :)

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Al.

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Message 65 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011 | 16:01:02 UTC

The sensor has processor running our software, so you can't just buy it anywhere. I haven't seen other HID geiger counters so far, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

1. Both sensor would provide slightly different data anyway, however long time average should be very close. It would be impossible to verify single reading but on the other hand it would help to notice sensor failure earlier.

2. I think it doesn't really mater, however it is best to keep it far from devices that emit strong electromagnetic field (well, at least the unshielded prototype doesn't like strong EM fields) and far from X-ray sources (are there any at home ? Very old TV sets perhaps ?).

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Message 66 - Posted: 4 Jul 2011 | 16:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 65.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll wait until you have the sensors available :)

Cheers,

Al.

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Message 77 - Posted: 7 Jul 2011 | 4:35:48 UTC

I see my computers running the test units, so that is good. I am interested in getting a sensor to go next to the QCN project (earthquake) sensor. Shipping will be to New Zealand - a few kilometers away.

I see the GBP/EEuro/USD price - it would be cool if there was an option to pay in bitcoins.

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Message 79 - Posted: 7 Jul 2011 | 13:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 77.

Sorry, but we not to see possibility to sell detector using bitcoins...
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Message 90 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011 | 23:06:25 UTC
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Message 103 - Posted: 11 Jul 2011 | 14:24:07 UTC - in response to Message 90.

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