Message boards : Number crunching : detector reads 0.00 uSv/h
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I put the chip in, replaced the lcd. | |
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Under the display in a black sponge a controller of the voltage converter is placed. It should be put down in the socket on the right side in such a position, that a small dot (circular depression) located on the chassis of controller found on the right side, bottom (with the letters IC3). Then mount the display back. ____________ Regards, Krzysztof 'krzyszp' Piszczek Android Radioactive@Home Map Android Radioactive@Home Map - donated My Workplace | |
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I did that, the "controller" is what i refered to as "chip". I did that first "put the chip in". later I also took apart again, removed and replaced it to make sure no bent pins. I've cvhecked it a thrid time now. | |
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Is it possible you have the polarity of the leads backwards? Do you have a volt meter you can use to determine which one is positive? And you could check the voltage across the leads at the same time. | |
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Did you remove the black sponge from the CON2-pins? | |
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This is attiny crash/reset caused by electromagnetic pulse, hard to believe that because of the very low current, but it happens and has been proven by experiments. This doesn't affect normal operation.
Remove the 34063 so there will be no high voltage. Disconnect the tube. Plug the sensor to the USB, make sure the BOINC app is not running (it may disable the beeper), take the "+" connector and try shorting briefly again, you should hear occasional beeps (not everytime, just randomly). Note: touching the "+" connector is essential during this test. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYm79jUpcl0 | |
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There is no black sponge at the goldpin connector? | |
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There is no black sponge at the goldpin connector? As you mention it here: What's it good for BTW? As it's labelled CON2, I think it's something to connect some other device with, but what? ____________ Gruesse vom Saenger | |
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CON2 is port for programmer. | |
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@Szopler No sponge on 6 pins of CON2 I did watch the assembly video and did exactly every step. i double-tripple verified contorller was in correct position, no bent pins and that my wires to tube had correct polarity. I especially marked the "+" on the PCB, wire and tube all in "RED" magic marker so to be sure when I have to disconnect I put them back correctly. I used a yellow wire for the "+" and a black wire for the other, so even with that i can't really mix them up. @TJM I took apart again, pulled the controller chip (yes the one that was originally in the sponge, i can't read the numbers on it they are too small. , put lcd back. no radioaactive@home running, i aborted last night and set NNW. didn't see the point of running for 0.00. I watched your test video. Plugging in usb now. Please wait... 0.00, touch wires breifly many times. NO beeps. No i went to take the two wires off and redo them, to be sure i had good connection, and the tab that gets pushed down against the wire got puleld out, so i could not get the wire back in. I worked at it and got it out of the way and back in somehow so i could get the wire back in. I've wasted too much time on this now and have to put it aside. sad :( | |
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From my own experience (very fresh - today's) | |
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Please do the test again, but this time take a wire, find LM358 (the name may be different, look for "358", as far as I remember it's at the center of the board) and short it's first leg to ground a couple of times (the tube "-" connector is at ground level). 358's output is wired directly to PULSE input so the CPU should count. If you have a multimeter please check if there is +5V at the 358's pin 8. | |
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To the guys (OK, Basia is probably a girl) having trouble, have you tried putting a smoke alarm on top of the tube? That should give you enough gamma radiation to see something if the sensor is working. | |
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To the guys (OK, Basia is probably a girl) having trouble, have you tried putting a smoke alarm on top of the tube? That should give you enough gamma radiation to see something if the sensor is working. Depending on the type of smoke alarm, mine (an optical one) doesn't have any isotopes inside. But an old TV-set (non-flat) will do, if you go near the screen. Mine produced up to 0,4µS/h in 1" distance. ____________ Gruesse vom Saenger | |
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No multimeter. I can use one at work, but that will ahve to wait until next week. I assume this is what you meant. i took out the hv controller chip. put lcd back in. no tube connected. i used the black tube ground wire and shorted pin 1 on the lm358 on the backside of the pcb. i got chirps. i got readings on the lcd of 0.95, 0.93 and 0.15 after each set of shorts at differnent speeds and counts. then after a while it drops back to 0.00. i'll try at work next week to see if there is +5v. i don't have anything i can use here at home at the moment. No smoke detector within usb randge, i can't pull the detector off the wall and the usb cable is not long enough to reach it, i can't move the computer stack. NO CRT's here, this is LED LCD land. CRT's went out of style 5 years ago at least. Altough there still is a crt monitor packed in the back of the closet and one or two at work i might be able to try. i can do more test enxt week, as now i'm in the middle of some liquid kooling builds taht have been dragging on for weeks so i'm trying to get at least one of these two done thsi weekend along with everything else i need to do and Christmas stuff. | |
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Radiation source won't help, something is wrong around the LM358 and the signal just doesn't pass through it. Perhaps one of the nearby elements or more likely one of the connections got damaged during shipment, as far as I know all sensors were tested before shipping. | |
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Flip the PCB over and inspect the copper traces for breaks (discontinuities) with a magnifying glass. Look for cold solder joints too. The soldering on my detector was impeccable but nobody's perfect. If you can find a couple replacements for the two LM358N you can switch them out and see if that gets it working. | |
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I have unfortunately got the same thing. I got it working very briefly, returned a couple of units then it seems to have stopped once more and I get 0.00. | |
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Can you show a photo of the tube ? | |
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@Bok | |
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I've used 6mm fuse clips as an "intermediate" between the tube and the alligators. Perhaps you can see it in the last picture in this thread. | |
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I redid the connections a little, but they are still not very good. I need to rethink it and/or take the advice given here. Electronics and such is note really my forte :) @Bok | |
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Try the easy solutions first. Clean the tarnish off the brass contacts on the ends of the tube. Fine (400 grit) emery cloth or sandpaper or steel wool will do the job quickly. If you don't have those materials then dip a rag in vinegar then dab it in some table salt to pick up some salt grains then rub the brass with the vinegar and salt. Texas Pete's hot sauce works well too. The high voltage at the ends of the leads should punch through a little tarnish but if your clips/connections are not tight and the tarnish is excessive ya never know. A quick cleanup of the tarnish is easy and it eliminates a possible cause. I redid the connections a little, but they are still not very good. I need to rethink it and/or take the advice given here. Electronics and such is note really my forte :) ____________ | |
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